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Message 17288 in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheoryOfEverything/message/17288

--- In TheoryOfEverything@yahoogroups.com, "TONY BERMANSEDER"
<PACIFICAP@h...> wrote:
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Hi zeus!

Sorry about the Greek.I didn't know you could only send 64 kB it was
222 kB.
I had pasted the Postulate File, the Mach file, the Algorithm file
and the Francom Adjacency files together to present a case for the
interested parties to consider.

I am trying to get a coauthorship together. Perhaps the material is
about sufficient to present a fledgling theory.

As you may have seen, I have deecided to rename the wavequarks as
Wolff-wavelets.
His picture on the WSM site did inspire me.
So lets see what happens next.
Do you have any suggestions?

Tony B.

Message 17298 in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheoryOfEverything/message/17298

Zeus wrote:

Tony B. states:

>>>>> Einstein admits that space is endowed with physical properties,
as it must be in order to conform to geometrical distortions and
affirms that, in that sense, there is an ether, but does not ascribe
any motion to this ether. Since further developments postulated the
existence of gravitational waves, it is difficult to reconcile this
early statement with modern thinking on the subject.>>>>

This had me too for a while but then I realized that motion is only
seen by single spacetime realms.

For instance: we can not see motion in either the electron's
spacetime realm or the quark realm.

We can imply from the waves emanating from these realms that angular
momentum has changed thus some accelerated motion or orbital change
has happened but we do not see the motion itself.

I'm not even so certain that motion per se exists in the universe as
a whole.

It could be that we, having an oscillator inside us like a
superheterodyne radio receiver, perceive this motion.

BUT

This might be an all resonance universe with no such thing as motion
in it per se.

These are not happy thoughts.

z


Dear Zeus!

Allow me to cheer you up. A recent discussion with Jim on infophysics is converging into the idea of Smolin's QLG, which does away with surfaces and volumes in favour of orthogonal spin states and twistor connections.

My argument is, that this is fine above the Weyl-geodesic, where physical properties are measurable wrt the Planck Action.

Since the Planck-Action sets the perimeters for the quantised particles, their dynamics become subject to their quantisation scales as you point out above.

The motion you are referring to above might well be the information transmission as given by QLG and Jim's Infophysics.

I however still would isist, that the selfsame information is then classically representable in a form of quantum geometry holographically mapping the data algorithmically.

Much of this will be worked out in the future, after the basic premises are acertained.

Tony B.


You may wish to add your ideas on the discussion below.

Tony,


The cosmology of the digital model is the primal tetrahedron, except it is
oriented every way at the end of our universe as in a house of mirrors.

There is only orthogonality in spin networks. The idea that they are
distorted or bent is an illusion due to our perception of them, not
something real. Its distortion is different for different observers. IT
HAS NO ABSOLUTE REALITY WHAT So EVER beyond simple orthogonality.

Deterministic Plank actions obey Lie algebras without any little tiny
magical influences. What is discriminated by these Plank actions is
manifest, period.

Jim
>
> Jim wrote:
> Yes, Loop Quantum Gravity is the closest thing to my objective
> information physics.&nbsp; It is the only theory that correctly shows
> in principle how quantum interactions manifest gravity.&nbsp; It is one
> of the few lattice free theories allowing the Machian synthesis of
> spacetime.It seems however, that they get things a bit backwards, their
> primal twistor is a tiny thing on the Planck scale. I contend that the
> primal twistor of a single Plank action is gigantic on the universal
> scale. They think that state exists on the Plank scale always.&nbsp; I
> say it is only manifest where there is sufficient energy to
> discriminate distance on such a small scale.It is because the large
> scale and the small scale are connected by doubling that Plank actions
> manifest binary distinctions, and images conveyed by signals are
> perfect digital representations of the source that never get mixed up
> in space independent of motion.They are trying to build a model from
> the bottom up when it must be a top down bottom up model.Jim

Jim's
> stubbornness is commendable in some respects. I have done some
> calculations and can verify Jim's basic ideas on quantum loopgravity.
> Cutting everything up into planbck-volumes, Smolin gets 10^184 nodes,
> rerpresenting the volume for the universe. These would calculate as
> (1/2).[10^184]! connections within.
> Using Stirling's Formula, this still gives you
> (1/2)Sqrt(2Pi).10^92.(10^184/e)^[10^184] connections. This however
> becomes a single quantum, which reduces to Jim's 'measurement-criteria'
> as the approximation, replacing the exponent 184 with 147.
> This is a firm prediction of Quantum Relativity.
> So dear all,we find ourselves in a precarious position here.
> Jim's top-down is justified, as well is Smolin's bottom-up.
> The link is quantum relativity, which Jim refuses to acknowledge.
> Smolin's scale is enlarged to the mensuration limit as given in GR.
> Jim's approach works from that limit upwards (NOT downwards).
> His calling of the 'quantum geometry'as yuck, bespeaks of his
> ignorannce in this regard. Jim stubbornly inisists that his approach
> allows for the description of the geodesic limit. If it could, then
> Smolin's exponent would Planck-Action him in ther Planck-Scale. But
> QR's reduced exponent manifests Jim's scenario in any possible computer
> simulation, using whatever mensuration technique. So what are we to do?
> The more I think of it, the more I grow convinced that the
> digitalisation of Jim is Quantum-Loop-Gravity, doing away with
> geometrical necessities for surfaces and volumes. But the cosmology of
> quantum-loop-gravity will not be found in it. It requires a classical
> blending of the relativities with the Planck-Action, such as proposed
> in QR.
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Message 17299 in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheoryOfEverything/message/17299

--- In TheoryOfEverything@yahoogroups.com, "tom rice" <th1nker@i...>
wrote:
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Yes, and this rhythmic clock inbuilt into every wavelet/particle is
the instanton as the MassEigenfrequency defined in QR.

fss=tps=1/fps=1/(3x10^30) second-units.

And not surprisingly, this TIME coincides with the proposed End of
Inflation in the various Guth-based models and scenarios.

Tony B.

Message 17312 in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheoryOfEverything/message/17312

Zeus wrote: I am interleaving!

Mass to Charge ratio

Tony Bermanseder states:

>>>>But any empirical measurements of the 'Naked Electronmass' engage the Charge/Mass ratio [e/m] and are

thus subject to further finetuning.>>>>

Mass to Charge ratio

You MUST understand what mass really is and you must understand what charge really is before you can understand what is happening in the mass to charge ratio.

Tony

Of course, but you didn't understand this derivation. The entire analysis shows that it is the effective electronmass, which is used in QR as the inertia for the dynamically interacting electron.

This problem was known in the 1920's and led to Schwinger numbers in the perturbation of the magnetic moment for the electron.

According to the wave mechanics of Dirac, the electron spin should be exactly one Bohr magneton eh/4Pi.m, but QED shows a small difference.

In showing that magnetocharge is related to mass via the stringcoupling of the magnetic monopole as [ec]unified, manifesting as c^3 eV, the finestructure of Heisenberg's h/4Pi crystallises as a function of the wormhole perimeter.

My analysis simply shows how the electromagnetic mass of the electron can be accounted for by this magnetocharge and then the textbook electronmass becomes subject to perturbation theory and the reduced charge formulations.

QR never uses this textbook value, as it is not incorporative of the electromagnetic mass component.

We see these as two different forces because of our antiquated science and our subset spacetime realm.

There is really only one force in this universe, NOT 4 fundamental forces.

Tony

Correct and this elementary force is the magnetocharge force, manifesting as the Strong Interaction as the colourforce of the gluons.

QR defines this as the Cuberoot of Alpha, relative to the invariance of Alpha as the Electromagnetic Interaction.

This reduces to the Squareroot of Alpha in the prewormhole epoch for the scaling of the Higgs Restmass Induction Scale, as set by the so called XL-Boson of superbrane class IIA.

You need to analyse the generation of the unified field, which describes the intrinsic spin angular momentum as the decisive factor for its genesis.

To see these things as one force you MUST be able to understand Ampere's Laws and see this as a resonance universe composed of scalar standing waves determining particles and TIME.

You must see all these particles having spin that produce vector resonances between couples that produce SPACE or force.

Thus space, as in general relativity, equates with force or becomes force.

Tony

Very true Spacexdf/dt=Magnetocharge, THE underpinning definition in QR.

But MagnetoCharge behaves like Inverse Energy in the mapped F-space allowing the S-duality of the coupling strengths to manifest mass as 'Natural Electricity'.

Hence [ec]u as superbrane, energy 2.7x10^16 GeV (the known GUT-threshold) becomes a SourceCurrent in Ampere.Metres,, which relates the magneton as Magneton per unit displacement.

Introducing the magnetopole through this strong-weak coupling symmetrises Maxwell's Equations in Gauss, Faraday and the vectors of divergence and curl.

Imagine an infinite frequency universe now in which for instance a multitude of individual de Broglie VECTOR spin resonances, between couples, add up to produce a SCALAR standing wave resonance that we see as the electron.

Tony

Yes, this is Milo's treatment to sum frequency states as the electron's wavefunction.

This links again to a new interpretation of the Psi^2.dV amplitude of the probabilities of finding the electron at position x.

As MagnetoCharge=(angular acceleration)(Volume); Angular acceleration (df/dt)/e* now describes 1/dV as the missing scalar allowing the statistical analysis.

So Psi^2 maps (Rate of change of frequency/MagnetoCharge).

This electron now has spin that produces a multitude of individual spin resonances between electron couples that produce SPACE in the electron's realm but only quantum units of energy or FORCE in our spacetime realm.

These individual quantum spin units add up to produce a SCALAR resonance that we see as LIGHT in our spacetime realm but which Tony Bermanseder has shown can also be visualized as a standing wave by c inversion.

Tony

Yes, I do not invoke the summation in the subsystems, as Milo did. I use the total collection of spinstates as given by the cosmological parameters as a direct macroquantisation from the superbranes as microquantisations in modular duality (Holographic Principle).

Then c-invariance describes the postulates of the relativities.

c^2 crystallises from the T-duality of electromagnetic to gravitational interactions.

c^3 becomes associated with the monopole as masscurrent leading to

[ec].c^2 = c^3 electronvolts as applied in high energy particle/wavelet physics as a natural consequence of S-duality.

Magnetic monopoles as elementary particles mapping individual quarks as colourcharged wavelets becomes EQUIVALENT to Quark summations (say colour/anticolour mesonic doublets/hyperonic colour triplets) as elementary particles mapping quantised magnetic monopoles as mass-currents.

I'm afraid that this is really a wave universe just as Milo Wolff is telling us but it is one where an infinite spectrum of frequencies produce individual VECTOR resonances between couples, which multiplied, produce SCALAR resonances that we see as particles and time.

Spherical solid particles, time and motion can only be seen as such in one spacetime realm.

Tony

There is only the One spacetime realm, however located in four-foldedness as described. The hypersphere occupies the 4D-volume also expressed as a 3D-manifold; interwoven with Translational linespace, Rotational hyperspace, Vibrational quantumspace and Quantised omnispace.

The spin of these particles produce lower frequency vector resonances that produce space at a lower frequency.

A multitude of these produce a SCALAR wave resonance and TIME at a lower SCALAR frequency than the previous SCALAR frequency.

This is an endless chain that goes on and on and on giving us space and time at various frequencies and an infinite frequency universe but only a limited number of these spin/orbit frequencues can have any effect on us hence the limited dimensions of String Theory.

z

Tony B.

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Message 17326 in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheoryOfEverything/message/17326

Dear Rybo, Zeus; allow me to interleave.

On Feb 24, 2005, at 7:31 PM, Robert Byron Duncan wrote:
> Quantum mechanics is based on spin reversals (h-bar)

Robert, I hope you get a chance to inload( 3 minutes ) the PDF of that
"Wavicle" article as it has one utterly fantastic/incredible picture of
translational(?) waves of open ocean photographed by Air Froce/Navy
planes. The whole of the Wavilce article is also well done, or so it
appears from a my layman perspective.

So "spin reversals" is called "h-bar". I mus try and rememeber/imprint
that little tidbit into the little gray cells.

> and orbital changes (h)

Orbit al changes are called "h"?

Because 2PiR=Wavelength as a circular perimeter, describing the quantization of orbital angular momentum as h; the 'intrinsic' spin angular momentum becomes quantised as h/2Pi=h-bar.



> quantum units of energy given off by the electron.

So really mean to say that QED is base on quantum units of energy given
off by the electron. These units are called photons. Area they not,
Robert?

Photons are selfdual (own antiparticle) field particles of QED, mediated by a colourcharged gauge-bosonic photon (antiphoton here is colourcharged).

The interaction between a photon and matter (say electron) is given in the strength of the electromagnetic interaction (Alpha) and as 'mediated' by the source-photon of the same (Eps-photon of QR).

> General relativity looks at gravity which I'm betting is caused by
> the spins of quarks.

I know you have mentioned this before. I like the idea in that quarks(
elementary ) are fundamental/basic however, they do carry more mass and
charge than an electron( elemetary ) so they loose the concept of
fundamental to some degree in realation to electrons mass and charge.

The other thing that bothers me in this scenareo Robert is that of the
any alledged Higgs boson that is alledged to give rise to formation of
all fermions, so, even tho it has not been verified, some or many
physicist feel i tmust exist ergo if it does I think that it is closer
to the gravitonic/gravity field of force than a quarks influence. I
dunno.

Here the gauge-boson of the Eps-Photon becomes 'gluonic' as the one superforce holding the fabric of the cosmos together.

The formation of quark hierachies is well defined in the manifestation of superbrane IIA, also known as the XL-Boson of GUT unifications.

The Higgs Boson does not exist as a particular particle/wavelet, but is responsible for givinbg mass-eigenvalues to the socalled elementary particles as a variable scaling parameter definable in frequency.

Its upper limit is the Fermi Constant of so 294 GeV and its lower limit is the Higgs Scalar Neutrino of mass 0.052 eV.


Is the mass of a Higgs supposed to be higher than a baryon(
proton/neutron )/ If so then it would follow your higher mass/charge
quarks over the electron scenario to some degree i.e. the more massive
a particle the more likely it is what creates gravity, assuming
gravity( - ) is created and not eternally existent and balanced --[ -
and + ]-- against ( + ) but only accumulates more in some places than
others.

> Since they spin at a higher frequency than electrons then their
> quantum units will be of a much shorter duration but more powerfull
> quantum units - - which we haven't as yet discovered.

Ok, I see clarification here now. Shorter frequency ergo smaller ergo
closer to the planck length( 10^- 32 ) alldedgement of gravitons ergo
gravity production. --[ any gravitonic existence in your book/eyes
Robert? ]--

> When they are discovered then String theorists will unify general
> relativity with quantum mechanics.
> imo z

What experiments if any are on the horizon or beyond that might help
confirm your beliefs Robert?

This is easy Rybo. The wormhole perimeter is 10^-22 metres or a magnification of the Planck-Scale in a facytor of 10^13.

The proposed LHC (LargeHadronCollider) at CERN is engineered to reach towards the 10^-20 metres limit.

Hence, certain neutrino associations with the wormhole should become discernible; though not the actual wormhole requiriing more energy in the 10^7 GeV region.

Tony B. Quantum Relativity